A few days ago, this post was shared: http://wp.me/p2jksg-2iv , being a reprint of a LTTE of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. The gist was, if Jesus were here today, he’d not be letting people starve, sicken and die just so a load of rich white males could get even richer. A pretty reasonable supposition, you’ll agree.
But Born-Again Bill did not agree. He wrote the following in response:
Bill
January 24, 2014 at 7:20 pm (Edit)
Jesus spoke in spiritual terms, not physical.
So when the hungry are fed, thirsty are given drink, stranger are taken in, naked are clothed, sick or in prison are visited, Jesus is talking about those who were hungry and thirsty and needed the Gospel of Christ; they were naked and sick and in prison because of their sin. This isn’t talking about physically filling the needs of people, this is in reference to filling their spiritual needs. To try and attach a physical meaning to a spiritual reference perverts the meaning, and you will get nowhere except with those who are as equally stupid as you are.
Now, in reference to physically helping those in need, this is very simple: If Jesus believed that it was the role of gov’t to help all these people, he had ample opportunity to condemn the Roman Empire for doing nothing about it. He didn’t. That’s because it’s the role of individuals.
Now, can individuals agree do help others via gov’t programs? Yes. But because one doesn’t view those things being the role of the gov’t doesn’t mean they don’t care for others, it just means they don’t agree with that method as being the best one. You left-wing freaks need to grow up and recognize that. You’re wrong. We’re right. That will never change. Never.
And tell riqster to shut his stupid mouth before I shut it for him. And I can, I assure you.
To which your humble correspondent replied,
bluntandcranky
January 24, 2014 at 7:54 pm (Edit)
What absolute rot. Lazarus was not just a metaphor, nor were the healings and other miracles.
I do not appreciate threats, and I shall report yours.
I shan’t dwell on the irony of a “Christian” threatening another person with violence. But it does diminish any legitimacy that your lecture might have possessed.
So, we have a violent, bullying, belligerent Born-Again Bill. Inasmuch as the title of this blog is literal truth, I posted the above exchange on another post:http://wp.me/p2jksg-2iB , and Bill decided to “disguise” his identity, renaming himself “Ba’al” and responding as if he were someone else. Thence the following exchange:
Ba’al
January 27, 2014 at 3:46 pm (Edit)
“If so, Lord, send me someplace else, please.”
Don’t worry. You’re well on your way to Hell. I await you with open arms, my faithful servant.bluntandcranky
January 27, 2014 at 3:55 pm (Edit)
Well, since Jesus told us that none of us would know our fate, I’ll not stress too much at your prediction.Ba’al
January 27, 2014 at 7:50 pm (Edit)
Oh no, the stress comes later. And it’s like it never ends.bluntandcranky
January 27, 2014 at 7:54 pm (Edit)
I’ll trust Christ’s words over your own, Billy Ba’al.Ba’al
January 27, 2014 at 8:15 pm (Edit)
I am your “Christ”bluntandcranky
January 27, 2014 at 8:45 pm (Edit)
Blasphemous, too, that you are. Or perhaps this is another threat?
This exchange is being provided to the authorities, along with your prior pleasantries. Just in case it is a threat.Ba’al
January 27, 2014 at 8:58 pm (Edit)
There’s nowhere to hide from God, or from the “Christ” you worship, which are not the same being. God is light. You worship the darkness. Thank you for being my servant.bluntandcranky
January 27, 2014 at 9:05 pm (Edit)
Thank you for the entertainment
First of all, the violent, bullying, belligerent Born-Again Bill hasn’t a clue as to who Ba’al was – the poor fool evidently thinks it’s Satan. So let’s add “bulls***ing” to the list of alliterative titles he is earning: http://www.pantheon.org/articles/b/baal.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal .
To any born-again Christians who may read this blog: threats of violence, blasphemy, and biblical semi-literacy are NOT effective tools of the evangelical trade. Bulls***ing, bullying, belligerent Born-Again Billy Ba’al presents a great example of how NOT to make a case for your denomination. He also provides a great example of how to get yourself reported to the authorities.
Frankly, this is great fun (he gets bonus hilarity points for using a bogus email address containing “LucyFur666”), and since your humble correspondent (unlike BAB) knows how to not reveal his real physical location via an IP address, he’ll be happy to continue this “debate” with ol’ Billy Ba’al, and to publish the exchanges here as they occur.
To anyone who is trying to deal with Fundagelicals: this is what you’re up against. It ain’t pretty, and there isn’t much hope of success, barring Divine intervention.
Mr. Blunt and Cranky
bluntandcranky 
Personally, I like fundamentalists… They can’t fight with anything other than their own circular logic so they tend to be entertaining to ridicule, which is about all they deserve. On another note, many, many, many psychological studies have been done which negatively correlate high religiosity, especially fundamentalism, with lower intelligence… kind of explains a lot, don’t you think? 🙂
I got into a similar tiff on amazon with one a “true believer”. Guess what? Amazon sent ME a threatening email bc he went whining that I had disrespected his religious beliefs bc I had nailed him for bullying like this. (And, of course, businesses pander to these people).
I am sick to death of their delusions of persecution, sure. But I’m also very troubled by the deterioration of American common sense and appreciation of diversity. The xenophobia they are spreading is enough to send chills down the spines of anyone with a good grasp of history. American misunderstand free speech principles. The First Amendment does not require tolerance of hate – which is outside the law.
We underestimate these people at our own peril. Intellectuals/liberals also dismissed brown shirts as extremist wackos. How did they pull off the worst mass murder in history? By convincing their followers that Jews (and communists, etc.) were persecuting THEM. Their persecution complex is very alarming: it demonizes the poor, people of color, minorities, women who seek abortions, atheists… America is so dumbed down and lacking in critical thinking skills that I doubt we could foil a coup by a fascist candidate if s/he cloaked intentions in religious/patriotic jargon.
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